1 00:00:04,910 --> 00:00:02,720 good afternoon and welcome to the j-2x 2 00:00:07,070 --> 00:00:04,920 engine test post test press conference 3 00:00:08,930 --> 00:00:07,080 my name is Daniel Koenig in NASA public 4 00:00:11,450 --> 00:00:08,940 affairs officer and with me to my left 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:11,460 our Daniel Dunn Bakr NASA deputy 6 00:00:16,939 --> 00:00:13,410 associate administrator for exploration 7 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:16,949 systems development Jodi singer nasa's 8 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:18,510 space launch systems deputy program 9 00:00:25,070 --> 00:00:22,260 manager Patrick Sherman NASA Stennis 10 00:00:27,259 --> 00:00:25,080 Space Center Director and Mike Kiner 11 00:00:29,599 --> 00:00:27,269 nasa's space launch systems liquid 12 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:29,609 engines element manager will begin with 13 00:00:32,209 --> 00:00:30,840 brief statements from each of our 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:32,219 participants and then open it up to 15 00:00:37,069 --> 00:00:35,610 questions dan Thank You Daniel good 16 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:37,079 afternoon everyone and thank you for 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:40,129 coming what a great day a great test 18 00:00:45,619 --> 00:00:43,530 another mark in our progress in getting 19 00:00:47,869 --> 00:00:45,629 the exploration systems developed along 20 00:00:50,810 --> 00:00:47,879 with the testing we have going on with 21 00:00:53,810 --> 00:00:50,820 Orion both in Denver and at Langley the 22 00:00:57,770 --> 00:00:53,820 engine testing here our booster testing 23 00:01:00,529 --> 00:00:57,780 that we did recently out at Utah all 24 00:01:03,049 --> 00:01:00,539 good hardware progress and I think the 25 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:03,059 team today did a great job demonstrating 26 00:01:07,310 --> 00:01:05,040 good hard work and we appreciate 27 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:07,320 everything they've done and we're going 28 00:01:15,620 --> 00:01:12,990 to make this happen okay hi i just also 29 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:15,630 like to say same thing that Dan has said 30 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:17,610 is it's a wonderful day it's a great 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:21,060 achievement my cottage and his team j-2x 32 00:01:24,770 --> 00:01:22,650 with our contractor pratt whitney 33 00:01:26,510 --> 00:01:24,780 rocketdyne as well as the partnerships 34 00:01:28,340 --> 00:01:26,520 that we have with dennis if made today 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:28,350 successful as the people that have 36 00:01:32,990 --> 00:01:30,450 worked hard to make this happen and it 37 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,000 really is a great feeling to see what we 38 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:35,040 can do and to go forward with this type 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:38,610 of technology for the future thanks Joey 40 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:40,770 and I code those words it is about the 41 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:43,320 the team here from Stennis Space Center 42 00:01:47,090 --> 00:01:44,610 were part of the role that we play in 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:47,100 support of this program very important 44 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:49,170 the nation and what you heard today was 45 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:50,430 the sound of the front end of the 46 00:01:56,660 --> 00:01:52,770 critical path of the future and that 47 00:01:59,300 --> 00:01:56,670 sounds sounds pretty good to me yep I'd 48 00:02:01,580 --> 00:01:59,310 like to add to what they had said that I 49 00:02:04,459 --> 00:02:01,590 think Beck was day it's a wonderful day 50 00:02:07,029 --> 00:02:04,469 and I think back to the design to the 51 00:02:09,870 --> 00:02:07,039 analysis we've done to the manufacturing 52 00:02:12,270 --> 00:02:09,880 the j-2x team both the mark 53 00:02:15,690 --> 00:02:12,280 instead us guys along with our faculty 54 00:02:17,250 --> 00:02:15,700 rocketdyne contractor partner and to to 55 00:02:18,930 --> 00:02:17,260 see the seeds that we planted a few 56 00:02:21,690 --> 00:02:18,940 years ago come together like this and 57 00:02:24,510 --> 00:02:21,700 and to hit this important milestone for 58 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:24,520 our testing and it didn't see it go from 59 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:26,620 here on and finishing the maturity of 60 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:29,790 this engine and getting back into flight 61 00:02:34,050 --> 00:02:32,650 all right thanks Mike we'll open it up 62 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:34,060 for questions now if you'd like to ask a 63 00:02:37,650 --> 00:02:35,740 question please raise your hand Mike 64 00:02:38,730 --> 00:02:37,660 will be passed to you also please 65 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:38,740 remember to state your name and 66 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:42,760 affiliation good afternoon Vanessa 67 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:44,530 Bolano with WG no news out of New 68 00:02:48,810 --> 00:02:47,440 Orleans I'm wondering we reach though 69 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:48,820 I've been hearing we've reached the 70 00:02:54,090 --> 00:02:51,790 we've reached the 500 second goal here 71 00:02:56,790 --> 00:02:54,100 one is this what are we going to see 72 00:03:01,410 --> 00:02:56,800 this engine actually take flight take us 73 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:01,420 out of Earth into space take that one or 74 00:03:06,420 --> 00:03:04,270 mature okay as far as the j-2x is going 75 00:03:08,850 --> 00:03:06,430 to be a critical part of us going beyond 76 00:03:12,090 --> 00:03:08,860 low-earth orbit right now the first 77 00:03:14,130 --> 00:03:12,100 flight is after 20 21 right now we're 78 00:03:16,650 --> 00:03:14,140 doing all the design and study and 79 00:03:18,660 --> 00:03:16,660 testing and taking the technology out of 80 00:03:20,490 --> 00:03:18,670 it applying it to our engines that were 81 00:03:22,860 --> 00:03:20,500 going to fly on the core as well as 82 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:22,870 using production technology different 83 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:24,580 things that we come up with to make sure 84 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:28,000 that we can deliver and payload to space 85 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:39,660 I li route with the Huntsville Times I 86 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:42,580 guess this is for my it sounded good 87 00:03:47,790 --> 00:03:45,670 where we were how did it sound where you 88 00:03:49,559 --> 00:03:47,800 were and were you able to tell anything 89 00:03:53,130 --> 00:03:49,569 immediately afterward about the engine 90 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:53,140 and how it how it looks sure yeah did 91 00:03:58,890 --> 00:03:57,040 sound great didn't it and so we went 92 00:04:01,140 --> 00:03:58,900 down and took a look at the data we have 93 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:01,150 a lot of guys on console and and they 94 00:04:05,010 --> 00:04:02,920 while we've got a lot of data to pour 95 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:05,020 through and for 500 seconds of good data 96 00:04:09,150 --> 00:04:07,810 we we got a quick look of it and the 97 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:09,160 engine performed exactly as we expected 98 00:04:14,370 --> 00:04:11,920 it to we're going to pull through to 99 00:04:15,949 --> 00:04:14,380 make sure that that all the if we find 100 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:15,959 any issues we'll take care of those but 101 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:22,750 first look is it went great next 102 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:31,530 Vanessa Bolano again with WG no news we 103 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:33,150 hear a lot about the future of 104 00:04:38,490 --> 00:04:36,670 exploration and a lot of people not sure 105 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:38,500 what it means especially after we've 106 00:04:44,670 --> 00:04:41,530 seen funding cuts what is the future of 107 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:44,680 space exploration what can we expect for 108 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:48,010 the next 20 30 years well i think that 109 00:04:52,170 --> 00:04:50,050 the future you you see that one of the 110 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:52,180 early steps of it here today is jodi 111 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:54,850 talked about getting this engine ready 112 00:05:01,650 --> 00:04:58,450 for our eventual heavy-lift rocket to 113 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:01,660 take crew and cargo beyond low-earth 114 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:05,520 orbit eventually we're going to Mars we 115 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:08,410 we have near-earth asteroids the moon 116 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:11,110 other destinations between here and Mars 117 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:14,050 that we're going to go visit the future 118 00:05:18,660 --> 00:05:17,290 is bright for exploration recognizing we 119 00:05:20,940 --> 00:05:18,670 do live in a constrained budget 120 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:20,950 environment at this point and we 121 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:22,810 understand that and we've set up the 122 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:25,780 program to live within those within that 123 00:05:30,810 --> 00:05:28,930 funding environment but the future for 124 00:05:32,220 --> 00:05:30,820 exploration is bright because we're 125 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:32,230 building the systems and you see the 126 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:34,870 evidence today of part of the team and 127 00:05:39,090 --> 00:05:37,150 an important part of the team along with 128 00:05:41,730 --> 00:05:39,100 everyone else working across the country 129 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:41,740 to go get the crew capsules the launch 130 00:05:46,290 --> 00:05:43,930 vehicles the transportation system in 131 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:46,300 place so that we can go beyond low-earth 132 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:49,450 orbit and this is an early step but it's 133 00:05:54,540 --> 00:05:51,970 evidence that that we're making progress 134 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:54,550 and we will continue to work towards 135 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:59,170 exploration hi Mary Perez Sun Herald 136 00:06:08,430 --> 00:06:01,360 where the Stennis Space Center for in 137 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:08,440 the exploration well I'm proud to say 138 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:11,350 that we fit you know right now is in the 139 00:06:17,030 --> 00:06:14,350 future of NASA is happening today you 140 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:17,040 heard the j-2x test successfully today 141 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:21,370 we are also supporting the cots program 142 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:23,410 that's going to be resupply on the space 143 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:25,750 station with the aj26 engine in another 144 00:06:30,810 --> 00:06:28,510 test stand and we also are waiting and 145 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:30,820 delivery of the thrust chamber assembly 146 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:31,930 from Blue Origin which will be 147 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:34,170 supporting the Commercial Crew program 148 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:37,780 as well so expect big things for Stennis 149 00:06:40,830 --> 00:06:39,160 dennis has had a traditional role in 150 00:06:42,210 --> 00:06:40,840 rocket test and a very strong 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:42,220 relationship and partners 152 00:06:44,910 --> 00:06:43,690 ship with the Marshall Space Flight 153 00:06:58,110 --> 00:06:44,920 Center and would look forward to that 154 00:07:04,540 --> 00:07:00,760 highly group again I guess for mr. 155 00:07:06,969 --> 00:07:04,550 Dunbar we were told today that you're 156 00:07:09,550 --> 00:07:06,979 going to test I think five developmental 157 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:09,560 engines and then two engines to certify 158 00:07:13,779 --> 00:07:11,360 before you get to a flight engine if 159 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:13,789 that if that's right why so many engines 160 00:07:19,559 --> 00:07:15,620 I mean what do you have to test so many 161 00:07:21,939 --> 00:07:19,569 engines couldn't you maybe test three 162 00:07:24,909 --> 00:07:21,949 well I'll take a first cut at that and 163 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:24,919 then I'll turn it over to Mike the 164 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:27,680 reason we test different engines in the 165 00:07:32,559 --> 00:07:29,690 law and the number of engines we test is 166 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:32,569 based upon the need to demonstrate the 167 00:07:37,330 --> 00:07:35,210 engine performance also repeatability 168 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:37,340 and to get a good understanding of how 169 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:39,919 the hardware will work in in the various 170 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:41,330 environments in which it will have to 171 00:07:45,490 --> 00:07:43,490 operate and to demonstrate all of our 172 00:07:48,999 --> 00:07:45,500 processes and procedures that you need 173 00:07:51,219 --> 00:07:49,009 to develop and build that engine so Mike 174 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:51,229 and his team have done a great job of 175 00:07:55,149 --> 00:07:53,449 making sure we understand what we need 176 00:07:58,209 --> 00:07:55,159 to do what we need to test and then 177 00:07:59,860 --> 00:07:58,219 laying out an efficient test program to 178 00:08:01,209 --> 00:07:59,870 go meet those needs meet those test 179 00:08:04,899 --> 00:08:01,219 objectives so that we can demonstrate 180 00:08:08,769 --> 00:08:04,909 good hardware we continue to work that 181 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:08,779 and the team has done great and we just 182 00:08:13,290 --> 00:08:11,330 continue to look for those things we do 183 00:08:17,950 --> 00:08:13,300 the testing so that we can learn and 184 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:17,960 understand how things operate and right 185 00:08:21,999 --> 00:08:20,330 now that's our plan and Mike and his 186 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:22,009 team have done a great job and I'll let 187 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:24,529 Mike go into any further details about 188 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:27,440 how we choose the numbers then then hit 189 00:08:30,490 --> 00:08:29,270 it pretty good we want to make sure that 190 00:08:31,689 --> 00:08:30,500 we have a good design we also want to 191 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:31,699 make sure that we understand how to make 192 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:33,890 a good repeatable design and also we 193 00:08:37,209 --> 00:08:35,570 want to drive out any issues that we 194 00:08:41,319 --> 00:08:37,219 have while on the ground so to make sure 195 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:41,329 not to have them in the air and so we we 196 00:08:45,579 --> 00:08:43,610 want to test several times you say that 197 00:08:47,470 --> 00:08:45,589 if I so many engines we're actually 198 00:08:50,079 --> 00:08:47,480 doing it with fewer engines anyone ever 199 00:08:52,210 --> 00:08:50,089 has for this class of engine and we 200 00:08:54,819 --> 00:08:52,220 understand the need to try to get that 201 00:08:56,139 --> 00:08:54,829 as modern analysis techniques improving 202 00:08:59,050 --> 00:08:56,149 things like that we will be able to 203 00:09:01,269 --> 00:08:59,060 continue to take steps towards less and 204 00:09:03,490 --> 00:09:01,279 less engines for demonstration we've 205 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:03,500 taken a big step with j-2x and we would 206 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:05,120 continue to do that with future engines 207 00:09:09,370 --> 00:09:07,730 and we just need to get to know this 208 00:09:10,569 --> 00:09:09,380 thing and make sure it's working just 209 00:09:12,939 --> 00:09:10,579 like we designed it 210 00:09:14,379 --> 00:09:12,949 one of my mentor says the hardware knows 211 00:09:24,340 --> 00:09:14,389 the truth we just need to get to know 212 00:09:29,020 --> 00:09:27,280 twofold question wondering how many 213 00:09:32,290 --> 00:09:29,030 people from start to finish including 214 00:09:35,170 --> 00:09:32,300 all the testing does it actually work on 215 00:09:39,490 --> 00:09:35,180 an engine like this and also how much 216 00:09:42,430 --> 00:09:39,500 does something like this cost immediate 217 00:09:44,590 --> 00:09:42,440 demise all right yeah for the protest 218 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:44,600 day there's about 30 to 35 folks that 219 00:09:49,930 --> 00:09:46,490 are there operating both the facility 220 00:09:52,090 --> 00:09:49,940 and watching over the engine our team of 221 00:09:53,980 --> 00:09:52,100 people that do the design analysis 222 00:09:57,370 --> 00:09:53,990 manufacturer back in 20 rock bands 223 00:09:59,200 --> 00:09:57,380 around 400 we have some folks that help 224 00:10:01,960 --> 00:09:59,210 at the Marshall Space Flight Center and 225 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:01,970 down here at at Stennis Space Center and 226 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:06,680 and we we totaled about 150 a test we 227 00:10:10,420 --> 00:10:08,570 really talk about those in terms of test 228 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:10,430 series and but if you were to try to get 229 00:10:15,370 --> 00:10:11,960 down to what there's a single test cost 230 00:10:18,430 --> 00:10:15,380 around 350 thousand dollars but but when 231 00:10:19,930 --> 00:10:18,440 we apply that across you know several 232 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:19,940 months and those kinds of things it 233 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:22,610 averages out but we get about 28 test 234 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:24,950 out of each engine and then we move to 235 00:10:27,490 --> 00:10:26,210 the next engine and that's kind of the 236 00:10:34,630 --> 00:10:27,500 life of the engine as we begin to 237 00:10:38,650 --> 00:10:34,640 understand it to its maturity other 238 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:40,300 if there no other questions and that 239 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:42,290 will conclude today's proceedings for 240 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:43,970 more information on the j-2x engine on